Posts by OUT and about

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Watching Parade on HD Plasma!!

by Bryan in

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friends

yeah, santa gave us a 37" hd plasma this year.

were watching the pasadena parade on discovery hd.

very cool.. on the hd channels it's like looking through a freaking window!.

OUT and about

HDTV is technically better than any DVD since they have to scale up the resoloution on the DVD. I had to be balanced, and outfit my home cinema with a treadmill, since I'm spending all my free time down there.

Will - Of the 320 square foot dedicated home cinema with Optoma cinema projector currently at 87 inches 1080i HD capable (I know what some will say to that, just see it for yourself), 2 dish satellite system (have to get international channels, you know), DVR, 5 DVD changer, Dolby pro logic II 600 watt sound system set up like THX style through the screen center channel, bar, tiered seating for 7 and room for more, air mattress for when we just can't stand the 27" Toshiba in my bedroom class. BTW ALL of that is my wifes doing except for the bar, which was left (stocked, I might add) by the previous homeowners. I was perfectly happy with the Toshiba and digital cable until I got this setup.

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how long to baptism?

by lost truth? in

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friends

i have recently started a bible study, and think that i may like to be baptised.. i was wondering how long does someone have to study before they are baptised?.

also, i was wondering how many hours do people spend on their mission (door to door).

i would be thankful for any help, as i am just like many, searching for awnsers.

OUT and about

Hey lost,

Ever hear the adage "If something seems to good to be true, it probably is?" Think about that, and how it has applied to your life in the past. All is not gold that glistens. I come from where you have in the sense that I was not brought up "in the truth." I began studying at around 19, and was baptised without any pressure (and to their credit without too much resistance) from family. I also joined a multi level marketing scheme once. I consider myself bright, inteligent, successful, and even (dare I say) accomplished. Yet I have been duped on occasion. As everyone here is expressing, the whole game changes once you make the commitment of baptism. I rushed into mine, and didn't answer the nagging doubts I had about 1914, and other doctrines because so many seemed logical to me. Leave no stone unturned. Don't commit unless you are 100% positive on every single doctrine and point. Along with this, study the Watchtower Societies past. How they have topsy-turveyd on so many key doctrines. Get a hold of one of their CD roms, and verify this from their own texts. Any protestant church will tell you that none can know the day or hour of christ's second coming (armageddeon). Yet the WTB&TS has made allusions to this happening on several occasions (1975 for example). If you ask about this at your hall, they will candy coat it like they did to me. Be smarter than I was, and look to their texts. You will be suprised, I assure you.

You are already showing how discerning you are by coming here, even though visiting this type of site (or any questioning of the FDS is vehimently condemed by the Society. I trust that you will make the right decision. Remember that with JW's, you are not simply adhering to beliefs about God and his plan. You are putting your faith in a group of fleshly men who are litterally seen as devine. An objective examination of their countless rewriting of their own doctrines leaves severe doubt as to any devine inspiration. And if that were to be true, then they are inspired by a very confused god indeed. A scary prospect regardless of how you view it.

Best wishes - Will

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Which Ones Got To YOU?

by Sunspot in

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friends

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rather than hijacking lostreality's "question" topic, and frannie's post---i began to think of movies that were particularly moving to me...... there have been many throughout the years, but right off the top of my head i'd have to say "imitation of life" (lana turner), "love is a many splendored thing" (william holden), "the way we were" (barbra streisand) and "evergreen" (barbra streisand) that really made me lose it in the theater.. what movies struck *you* the hardest?.

annie....who should have invested in the kleenex corp)

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Dumb and Dumber

That is rather telling, wouldn't you say?

I felt Antwone Fisher was very powerful, also.

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Have to think something through, wish I could use some of your advice.

by Daunt in

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friends

i'm in a pretty tough pickle at the moment.

i was on this site before under another username but i haven't been here for a long time.

i am fully convinced that this religion isn't what it's cracked up to be.

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You could always do what I am doing - lead a double life -

He he! Sounds like all of the kids living with parents at my old hall. Ok, who's down for a trip to the titty bar after the friday meeting?

Seriously, though, we have to do what we have to do. I'd say try to be on your best behavior until 18. Then leave for the military! Trust me, it's tough being on your own at first, until you get used to everything. And don't rely on roomates to foot part of the bill. They will screw you every time. A roomate is fine, but be sure you can afford the place on your own, if things don't work out. I am a landlord, and I can tell you it's amazing what people think when it comes time to pay the rent. And don't think friends are different. They are the WORST! I have had to "evict" 3 friends. One was a very close friend, and that was the most difficult and painful. You DON'T want to come crawling home after this! Enlisting in the armed forces will put them over the top, to be sure, but it has it's merits.

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We Thank You Jehovah For Our............................Mobile Phones?

by Englishman in

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yup!.

song 212, amongst others...... http://www.3gupload.com/ringtones/module/downloads/action/browse/category_id/820/orderby/rating/show/20/showdesc/0/media_next_page/9

OUT and about

That is F&*%@# up! And I'll bet it's the talk of the week after meetings, too. Personally, the vibrate thing is working fine for me. I have mine set to ring a generic tone after 3 rings in case I loose the thing in the house. I hate phones.

Will

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A Loving organization?

by startingover in

last saturday an old friend of ours took her life.

she and her husband had almost been married 25 years, and we had known her longer than that.

she was like a little sister to my wife.

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Upside/down: WOW!

What a terrible, yet insightful account. It's stories like this that help conflicted ones begin to break the bonds with the Society. Thank you very much for this sad but telling post.

Oh, and happy birthday. Do we share the same? They have me down for today, but I'm actually going to be 30 tomorrow (Jan 1) at 8pm ish. Anyway, happy B'day!

Will

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How did field service duty affect your zeal for the troof?

by M.J. in

did it reinforce your dedication to the cause?

or did it burden and disillusion you?

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Momof5,

Keep reading and posting here. Among the nitwits and jokers (myself) are some experianced, wise and insightful persons. 12 years is a long time (even being unbaptised). You will find solace here among ones who have shared experiances such as yours. Don't count yourself short. There's a big world out there, and it's not all evil. And it's definately not too late to make a change! Stick around. It's worth it.

Regards,

Will

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We all have mothers....

by Preston in

my mom was born to a jewish family on staten island, new york 50 years ago.

she learned "the truth" from a group of sisters who told her that the jews were not god's chosen people and that she needed to be baptized.

she went through most of her life not following the society to a "t".

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Preston, you are a Man among men.

Best wishes in 2005!

Will

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Letter From President George W. Bush

by prophecor in

ok so maybe i'm being played but believe it or not, i just got a letter from the president, that's right, the president of the united states of america!!!

he was thanking many of his constituents for supporting him in his campaign.

and get this, unlike the the problems that are resulting from donald rumsfeld's not taking the time to sign the letters, notifying their loved ones of the soldiers deaths, this appears to be written out in his own personal handwriting.

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I've seen one of those form letters (Clinton to my father). They are very convincing. I'm not an expert, but my logical mind sides with Blondie.

Will

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Congregation gossip - Why so rampant?

by OUT and about in

jw
friends

is is just me, or did every congregation have a big (as in greater than in the non jw world) problem with this?

how have some been affected?

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........... At the same time they encouraged people to rat on each other to the elders, and to even report themselves for their own "secret faults." ......

Tammy,

Thanks for your insight. The brothers and sisters my age were pretty good about protecting information about each others actions that could be damaging (drinking, drugs, porn and other sexual misconduct). The funny thing is how some would beat themselves up about reporting THEMSELVES. I remember staying up late one night discussing this with a very good friend of mine (still talk to him). As I was already inactive, I chose not to offer any advice, as my views and his were differing, and even in that state, I didn't want to be what JW's would consider a negative influence. I did wonder why if you had gotten away with something (and this happened to him before baptism). would you want to make an issue of it. Especially if you really were repentant in your heart?

Will